Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (moon8462) — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:19:15 GMT

Bill's bamboo ferrules are NO SLOUCH! Those beauties work fantastic and since he gave me the basics to build them, I've convinced a load of customers they're the way to go. The butt/over is my personal favorite, but I'm trying to develop a spigot that will withstand the forces without giving up on the rod's one-piece feel. The spigot method creates a gorgeous one to one seam that rivals any rod I've seen... they just need to be strong!!! Hey, Billy... how's Bubba?!...

Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (bubba01) — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:05:38 GMT

Dave, the tip over butt is easier to make mostly because it follows the progression of the taper. In other words, the inside of the female ferrule increases in diameter as it goes past the end of the rod tip section to form the hollow part. The butt section increases the same as it runs from the male ferrule area to the butt end of the rod. This also makes it much easier, in my opinion, to get a real solid connection between the ferrule sections. The butt over tip ferrules go against the run...

Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (splitcane) — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:02:29 GMT

Sweet Billy...

I like the tip over as well but I bet the butt over has a nice action...?

Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (bubba01) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:41:53 GMT

I like the translucent look myself Dave however that jasper needed CPing. I had a computer problem and lost a lot of pictures but here's a couple of examples of cane ferrules.

The first one is a tip over butt ferrule, my first of that type, which is my preferred style.

The next one is a rod with butt over tip.

Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (splitcane) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:02:51 GMT

Kool Billy...

I have only done a hand full of rods using CP, most are translucent as I perfer the look...

Got any photos of the cane ferrule rods...?

I have not built any but find them very interesting...

Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (bubba01) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:20:58 GMT

Thank's Dave and you are right in that education is not cheap. Out of 100 rods, this one was the first I tried to CP the wraps. The thread required it though. That twist of tan/black was gorgeous but where the bleeding occured, it was so dark it looked plain black. Haha, this was a lot cheaper then when I decieded to make cane ferruled rods and experimented with all the styles. I have it down to a T now but the learning curve was costly. I'm gonna try the turkey baster on this one as...

Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (splitcane) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:34:45 GMT

There are draw backs to both methods...

With HVPL you have to apply more coats as it will drip if you lay it on to thick, so clean-up gets real tiring after awhile...

With dipping you have less coats but the wraps will bleed much easier because there submerged and under pressure...

Probably the reason most go translucent today , that and it looks nice to boot so why not...

There are many CP that work but ALL have a learning curve and it's better...

Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (bubba01) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:15:01 GMT

Dave, the cleanup appears to be the drawback to using the HVLP on a single rod. My intention was to spray the poly on rods with color preserved wraps. I used Pearsalls Jasper on a rod and it would have been beautiful if not for some bleeding thru.
What do you think is a dependable color preserver. I used Flex-Coat CP and dipped the rod which is probably two no no's.

Billy

Re: hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (splitcane) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:48:49 GMT

I use a HVLP ( high volume, low pressure ) at my sign shop for the last 10 years and it's great, will push ploy, enamel or spar. Most you have to thin about 15% to 25% with mineral spirits. I have not sprayed a rod with it because that's a lot of set-up and cleaning for one rod, on a production run it could save a lot of time...

hvlp sprayer/ poly

feeds@yuku.com (bubba01) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:52:07 GMT

Anybody ever use an hvlp spray system to apply the finish to a rod. If so, what did you use for a finish and how did you prepare it. I'm thinking of getting an Earlex 3000 system to spray exterior polyurethane and was wondering; 1) will it spray the poly, 2) is spar urethane a better choice, 3) how did you thin the material. Also it seems this would be the way to go with CP'd wraps.

Thanks in advance guys,
Billy