Thanks in advance guys,
Billy
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bubba01.clarksclassicfl... |
hvlp sprayer/ poly |
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Anybody ever use an hvlp spray system to apply the finish to a rod. If so, what did you use for a finish and how did you prepare it. I'm thinking of
getting an Earlex 3000 system to spray exterior polyurethane and was wondering; 1) will it spray the poly, 2) is spar urethane a better choice, 3) how did you
thin the material. Also it seems this would be the way to go with CP'd wraps.
Thanks in advance guys, Billy |
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I use a HVLP ( high volume, low pressure ) at my sign shop for the last 10 years and it's great, will push ploy, enamel or spar. Most you have to thin
about 15% to 25% with mineral spirits. I have not sprayed a rod with it because that's a lot of set-up and cleaning for one rod, on a production run it
could save a lot of time...
Take Care, Dave
Denver Dave's Vintage Bamboo Fly Rods |
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bubba01.clarksclassicfl... |
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Dave, the cleanup appears to be the drawback to using the HVLP on a single rod. My intention was to spray the poly on rods with color preserved wraps. I
used Pearsalls Jasper on a rod and it would have been beautiful if not for some bleeding thru.
What do you think is a dependable color preserver. I used Flex-Coat CP and dipped the rod which is probably two no no's. Billy |
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splitcane |
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There are draw backs to both methods...
Take Care, Dave
Denver Dave's Vintage Bamboo Fly Rods |
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bubba01.clarksclassicfl... |
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Thank's Dave and you are right in that education is not cheap. Out of 100 rods, this one was the first I tried to CP the wraps. The thread required it
though. That twist of tan/black was gorgeous but where the bleeding occured, it was so dark it looked plain black. Haha, this was a lot cheaper then when I
decieded to make cane ferruled rods and experimented with all the styles. I have it down to a T now but the learning curve was costly. I'm gonna try the
turkey baster on this one as soon as I rewrap the butt.
Billy |
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splitcane |
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Kool Billy...
I have only done a hand full of rods using CP, most are translucent as I perfer the look... Got any photos of the cane ferrule rods...? I have not built any but find them very interesting...
Take Care, Dave
Denver Dave's Vintage Bamboo Fly Rods |
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bubba01.clarksclassicfl... |
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I like the translucent look myself Dave however that jasper needed CPing. I had a computer problem and lost a lot of pictures but here's a couple of
examples of cane ferrules.
The first one is a tip over butt ferrule, my first of that type, which is my preferred style.
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splitcane |
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Sweet Billy...
I like the tip over as well but I bet the butt over has a nice action...?
Take Care, Dave
Denver Dave's Vintage Bamboo Fly Rods |
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bubba01.clarksclassicfl... |
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Dave, the tip over butt is easier to make mostly because it follows the progression of the taper. In other words, the inside of the female ferrule increases in
diameter as it goes past the end of the rod tip section to form the hollow part. The butt section increases the same as it runs from the male ferrule area to
the butt end of the rod. This also makes it much easier, in my opinion, to get a real solid connection between the ferrule sections. The butt over tip ferrules
go against the run of the taper. The female ferrule starts off at the end of the rod shaft and gets smaller as it goes on past the ferrule area to the end of
the butt section. The male ferrule ends of the tip sections are then taperd the same way. It starts smaller till it reaches what is the end of the male ferrule
area. You will see this is quite evident from the pictures. The butt over ferrule was made by swelling out the ferrule area on that section. Then you just
reduce the inside to get the wall thickness you need. The tip over was done by making a hollow rod section and sliding it down the shaft into place. The rest
is cosmetic. I could have feathered the tip over ferrule more so that it ran smoothly into the shaft. On both types, I use clear wraps so the ferrule is far
less noticeable then with the colored wraps ala the butt over rod picture. The tip over won't get water in the ferrule either if it gets wet. The other
thing with these is it seems that the less noticeable they are the better people like them. As far as feel goes, I don't think either has an advantage.
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moon8462.clarksclassicfl... |
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Bill's bamboo ferrules are NO SLOUCH! Those beauties work fantastic and since he gave me the basics to build them, I've convinced a load of customers
they're the way to go. The butt/over is my personal favorite, but I'm trying to develop a spigot that will withstand the forces without giving up on
the rod's one-piece feel. The spigot method creates a gorgeous one to one seam that rivals any rod I've seen... they just need to be strong!!! Hey,
Billy... how's Bubba?! :) At least he isn't layin' out in the snow now!!! Hahahaha... gotta get you both a vacation out here, only 95 today...
I'm DYIN'!!!! best to all, Mike
Mike St. Clair
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